Eric Weinstein wrote a good article several years ago arguing that the concept of kayfabe, taken form professional wrestling, is a great thing to have in your cognitive toolkit https://www.edge.org/response-detail/11783 lonelappde on July 25, 2019 I would like to direct you to a book, if you haven't alreay been directed to it, that was written by an author mentioned in prometheus risisng, it is called "the pragmatics of human communication" it talks about redundancy and deception, it also analyses the very interesting play/film, 'who's afraid of virginia wolfe'. He doesn’t seem to want to try to explain it. ), "spin," fakes, secrecy, claims of "transparency," the information deformations that occur within status hierarchies, advertising and PR and hypnotic techniques, etc. Each year Edge poses a question in an attempt to get various thinkers from various backgrounds around the world to chime in with their own answers and interpretations. Why would you do that? And we would all be better served to know this term and its mechanisms. Wait, there's more. Listen to him describe how a tree grows in mass, compare that to how Weinstein tries to explain his theory. Political institutions are symbolic acts that must be interpreted within some schema or another. When ants communicate via very elaborate pheromones, the lying has its limits, it seems, at least compared to our signaling systems. ", etc): the system is preserved. A "scientific concept" may come from philosophy, logic, economics, jurisprudence, or other analytic enterprises, as long as it is a rigorous conceptual tool that may be summed up succinctly (or "in a phrase") but has broad application to understanding the world. "Perfectly Legal, adj. Let us consider this list as The Shadow of ourselves, vis a vis what we'd. Yet most of our thinking continues to treat deception as something of a perturbation on the exchange of pure information, leaving us unprepared to contemplate a world in which fakery may reliably crowd out the genuine. Or conspirace theory for smart people? Agentic leadership derives from the term agency. "Oh you're drinking tea" "no actually you're walking the tightrope of yin and yang between the herbal and the spiritual planes". This could include wrestlers' family members who had not been clued into the scripted nature of professional wrestling. If only he could've made it out of Europe in time... 4th Culture advocate, wunderkind, born: 1981! This is the sum total of the DISC, EGOs, and Load-Bearing Fictions being realized. This originates from the epsilon-delta definition of a limit in mathematics. The Meteorite (Chondrite) and its Organisms – Otto Hahn, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: ‘This could be the beginning of a revolution’, The Drug Report: July, 2012: Coffee and Velocity. 3 0 obj chastising people for making continual connections, Report: WWE plans to take over Twitch accounts and revenue from its wrestlers, Brisco is back with the continuation of his ‘big announcement’, Sami Zayn doesn’t know if he’s banned from Saudi Arabia, ‘Baseball Rain Delay’ draws more viewers than AEW and NXT, The brand-to-brand invitation is still a thing, Batista says WWE refused to add RZA lyrics to his theme song. What the Weinstein bro’s do best is put themselves in a room with someone who knows just a bit less than they do about a topic and they fool their guest with convoluted language and sophistry into thinking they’ve uncovered some massive structural problem with how we interpret the world. As Weinstein says, The people in these spaces are typically acting in ways that engage the audience while insulating themselves from actual risk of humiliation or career derailment. Theoretical physics practically created the modern economy: These are not simply taxpayer dollars. Those who control the metaphors control social thought? The truly horrifying thing about kayfabe, as I read Weinstein about it, is that it shows the 1%/Ruling Class and its managers how many layers of disbelief the human mind is capable of suspending before fantasy melds seamlessly with reality.

Eric has referred to The Big Nap as the era characterized by magical thinking and extraordinary luck between the end of World War II and 2020 the emergence of COVID-19. - Robert Anton Wilson, When I was 16 I lived with my father just outside of Denver, and he and his childhood friend and drinking buddy got into watching pro-wrestling on TV. The Shadow would be all that which is...less than trustworthy? The Singularitarian. This was a good, but not at all essential, go home show of NXT. That's sorta why I'm "here.". Good guests. "Your post made me think of "F for Fake. A person with expert training & credentials, yet who rejects consensus/institutional positions that cannot bear scrutiny.". My claim is that a lot of analytic lefties have been chased into the center right by the madness of these progressive lunatics, and that thing I'm calling "The Thinkquisition" is that people who are worried about, you know, homophobia or xenophobia, and all these things, but don't for a second sign up for the progressive, revolutionary sort of pseudo-Maoist agenda, those people are now hanging out as if they were in Turkey, even though their home, you know, was originally in the analog of Spain. What I like about Edelman's work is the Things Are Not As They Seem-ishness of it all; I also like that he concentrated on language and semiotic/symbolic analysis, which fits into my main model and along with valued thinkers like Robert Anton Wilson, Alfred Korzybski, Marshall McLuhan, George Lakoff, and even, in a way, Noam Chomsky. This is a great article, I like the sources you draw on. In particular, humanity's future selective pressures appear likely to remain tied to economic theory which currently uses as its central construct a market model based on assumptions of perfect information. Kayfabe, Weinstein's article promises, can offer a radically different perspective on matters of realism. A xenophile is a person with intense interest/love for other cultures, this is normally paired with an open borders policy. It's the US’s Competitive Advantage. Huge respect for Lex, big fan of everything he says. Eric often uses terms or turns-of-phrase that some people may not immediately understand. I think decpetion is rooted in zero-sum games, and happpens mostly between species (though you do get symbiosis) whereas co-opration and truthfulnness is rooted in non-zero sum games which happen more in intraspecies relations(though you do get intraspecies predators, especcialy in the primate world). I haven't heard Lex' whole podcast, only snippets because I generally find the Weinsteins insufferable nowadays. So here we have a reason for truthfulness that's not lame-brained ("The Bible sez..." or "good people tell the truth! It appears so. In a recent podcast, Lex Fridman tries to get Eric Weinstein to explain his Geometric Unity theory as if he was writing "G.U. When the news is narrative-aligned they report the news. (E Weinstein 2011), Erics Original Edge.org Response relating to Kayfabe. Takes a smart, humble person to realize he doesn't understand something. The center right has become the Ottoman Empire to receive people chased out of the madness of Spain." Weinstein seems to be playing the game all alone. We all seemed to understand each other though. It's common to read about deceit and lying and note the linkage between our very complex intra-species signaling system (i.e, human language) and how it's exquisitely available for the purposes of deceit. “Consensus” is how we bully people into pretending that there’s nothing to see, move along, everyone. A place to discuss Sam Harris and to have difficult conversations with civility. There is a climate consensus. With that out of the way, here's the Science part. He wants that NDT factor and he's just not charismatic or eloquent enough for it. And the info theory list?

Such a system, in continuous development for more than a century, is known to exist and now supports an intricate multi-billion … I'm curious what other people think of this interview and others. Eric's go-to for this a "Xenophilic Restrictionist". Meanwhile Bret has written one single academic article (that’s not even experimental) in all his years as a “professor,” that outlines some pretty inconsequential differences between lab bred and wild mice, but his hypothesis is suggesting that our medical science is somehow flawed—because wild mice are somehow a better model for humans than lab mice are for... reasons? Weinstein says that, if you're wondering why there are no investigative journalists doing the real work they used to do and seemingly "bitter corporate rivals cooperate on everything from joint ventures to lobbying efforts," we'd understand this better if we knew what a kayfabe is. And that’s your approach to the world. Bret Weinstein's term for the existential position humanity faces. The latest rumors, including who’s turning in Undisputed, more praise for Peyton, people working Raw & SmackDown on developmental deals, and more! I think that kayfabe is a pretty good way to model people’s behavior in public spaces where there appears to be unending or intractable conflict. I think people actively play these roles, because we innately recognize and respect what they look like, however, the conventional wisdom is that "tweener" (people who are between or outside the spectrum between those two poles) characters don't sell. Geometric Unity - A Theory of Everything (Eric Weinstein) | AI Podcast Clips. I acknowledge that it's common for highly intelligent people to be incomprehensible and lack basic social skills that would conduce to effective communication.

"He has steady hands." We all know the world of Professional Wrestling is low brow and can appeal to the lowest common denominator. Seems to pretend to be saying a lot without really saying anything at all. This person demonstrates assertiveness, competitiveness, independence, courageousness, and is masterful in achieving their task at hand. And it comes out of the traveling-carnival of hokum that is professional wrestling.

The reality is—for both brothers—that smarter people than them have actually looked at what seem on the surface to be these structural problems with how we interpret their respective subfields, they just don’t care because most of their ideas are relatively inconsequential. Back to deception. Convince people you want a job that you don't think should even exist?

And if you believe that that doesn't happen anymore--absolutely--then the burden of proof is on you.

It seems that nearly everyone has a very difficult time understanding any of his ideas. Each time Wrasslin' gets brought up in discussing MMA I can almost hear Luke Thomas doing his best mocking yokel impression while chastising people for making continual connections between the two before feeling the need to inform us of his penchant for The Classics as his preferred means of recreational entertainment. Back in the day when I used to use a lot of speed me and friends would talk in riddles like that when we were charging through day 3 of a bender. 1 0 obj